Pastor Jacob Mentzel and Nathan Alberson have a podcast titled Sound of Sanity that’s worth your time. If you haven’t listened yet, check out the current episode that went live today.

In this episode, Nathan, Jake, and I talk about Warhorn Media’s newest book, The Grace of Shame: 7 Ways the Church Has Failed To Love Homosexuals. And in connection with the book, we talk about a bunch of other things including pride, conflict, saying I was wrong, and humility.

I think you’ll agree the podcast is helpful. Let other people know about it so they’ll listen, too. Al Mohler, Russ Moore and Tim Keller aren’t going to tell anyone about it, so you have to.


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